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The dexterity with which Pickstock in one fell sentence accounts for several different cultural phenomena—the preference of more Americans to die, or have their family members die, in hospitals rather than at home, the rise and popularity of nursing “homes,” the default expectation of embalming in the funeral “home” industry, as well as the design, marketing, placement, and procedures of abortion clinics. It’s a fine way to do away with a good movement. this creation that passes away (1 Cor 7:31).201 God will set creation free from Berry, however, does not mention cremation anywhere that I recall. It has nothing to do with “Christianity.”. So now can we stop asserting that cremation can only be prompted by ignorance of tradition or modernist gnosticism? The universal Christian witness up until about the 1960s supports burial and condemns cremation. I have no doubts about the Resurrection of the dead, but I am fairly sure it will not resemble the early scenes of Night Of The Living Dead. that my original post seemed to lack for some of you. You can accuse others of heteropraxis on that score, but certainly not heterodoxy — unless you are asserting that physical burial is part of the gospel? Often family members have strong feelings about the way they want to be laid to rest. Some, like your husband, oppose cremation on biblical … (But I think that is what you were meaning to say.). And, lost each human trace, surrendering up Multi-generational orphans of success, we are orphans and we are orphaning. Is cremation a sin, or is it an ethical option for Christians? Or are you arguing that donating one’s body to medical research in order to help save others’ lives is also un-Christian? Like one who wraps the drapery of his couch The current physical creation longs for liberation from corruption Just a couple of parting thoughts. The question should be: why desecrate the image of God, the temple of the Holy Spirit itself by destroying it with fire? Our bodies He will breathe the life back into when it suits His purpose. ing that interprets these in terms of the “extinction of the creation itself in In the meantime the connection with our old forms has been broken, this generation can see that the Temple is already broken. To mix for ever with the elements, But yes, I agree that we are not saved “alone”; but the community in and through which we are saved is the Church (give that what meaning seems right to you; I am not arguing in favor of one institutional church here). Though most religions do permit cremation, some don’t, such as Islam and Orthodox Judaism. Could James Matthew Wilson clear this up for me? There is little Christian about arguing for individual salvation. I admit to being surprised that there are folks who think we have a religious duty to be buried. creation. Indeed. I was just expressing my sincere surprise that their were Christians who considered burial a matter of orthodoxy. FOR SHAME! I wish this article had focused more on the spirit of the thing, which is significant: our culture’s “necrophilia” and disregard for history and place. Your comments prove otherwise. physical creation, remove our “souls” from of our bodies, and then start all Some of these, like nitrous oxides and heavy metals, … imply escape from creation.199 instead, God will bring forth the renewed not it also says that the current creation will undergo fire What is the point of God judging something that has no soul? Believers chose the third day as an affirmation of faith in the resurrection of Christ and the future resurrection of all believers. Having said that, my wife wants her cremated body to be deposited into the Gulf of Mexico. Cremation is not wrong, but burial is a better picture of the Christian hope of resurrection. Some feel that it’s disrespectful or that it deprives the family of the sense of closure that comes from viewing the body in the casket. Factors against it are the amount of fuel required by a single cremation … You have successfully joined our subscriber list. In the Hebrew Scriptures cremation is usually presented in a negative light. Thou go not, like the quarry-slave at night, violent storm on the waters. Things have gotten out of hand. Christian anthropology does not teach that a human is a soul in a body, like a ghost in a container. But isn’t there an inconsistency here? Why should the dead take up so much space? Do you have anything to offer other than tradition and baseless assertions of consequentialism, or an answer to the Scriptural appeal to use our bodies to do good to others when no obvious moral wrong is involved? I’d love to see your proof texting of this. in which the chaotic waters covered the earth. It seems to me that Christ obliterated the notion that God favors one ethnicity over another. Eliot in Choruses from the Rock. Why is this so hard to understand? The renewed creation will shed the old creation like shedding a tat- I don’t want to make that mistake. The difference, I suppose, is that from where I presently stand (disclaimer: I’m a young, ignorant, wayfaring fool), I find myself reaching more into the past for the good examples than holding with too much faith in the present state of skepticism toward everything told, and ennui with everything ‘old’, nor likewise do I have much faith that we are going to suddenly formulate any brand new solutions. put it in contemporary terms, He shared the DNA of His mother, a DNA Second, just as the body has a future for the soul to inhabit the created order has a future for the body to inhabit. Granted she hadn’t been practicing traditional Roman Catholicism for a while so that might have been part of it, but I don’t think she’ll be damned for it. I agree with commenters who have mentioned the abomination of the made-up and embalmed body, but for my father we stipulated we wanted the legal minimum, no embalming, and to see him laid out in his all wood casket—we wanted something that would decompose—at peace after much suffering, and kingly (“lord of thyself, I crown and mitre thee”–Virgil to Dante at the end of the Purgatorio), was in a sense a joy to his family. Those who have been burned as martyrs — even those believers who have wrongly chosen cremation will be raised. The bone fragments are then processed in a machine until they resemble coarse sand, light gray in color. I hope you are not saying that God cannot resurrect us if we are cremated? An urn can be interred with the same holy reverence as a coffin. And I was happy that the Orthodox Church required an open casket. By the way, Sweden has a new method of body disposal via a chemical bath which dissolves the body into a liquid from which “useful components” can be recovered. every believer body-and-soul. I’m on it Zac. Many of the comments have still been looking at the burial issue from a very individualistic lens. As someone who has buried one grandmother and two parents over the past decade I can tell you, it wasn’t cheap. I’ve found this post and the comments fascinating, because I was unaware that there were people who believed that what happens to our bodies after death is somehow relevant to our faith. It’s that it reflects, as Mr. crwiley# states below, a tendency to think about bodies as extraneous packaging. We did our protesting and now we don’t know how to submit to, or even recognize, authority. Dan, if what you demand is a common place for different perspectives on questions of “place, limits, liberty”, then you are naturally going to come across, from time to time — some times more than others — perspectives with which you disagree. It’s pretty hard to get a relic from a pile of ash. Well, my friend, I wasn’t calling anyone CRAZY, as you put it. You are simply repeating the same arrogant and uncharitable assertions — people only support cremation on a “modernist whim.”. Unless the cremated remains are interred in a perpetual care cemetery, there will be no permanent marker or place to honor and memorialize the life and death of the deceased for generations to come. We decried tradition (some rightly), and now don’t know how to connect truth and practice. Father’s favor. Thanks for your e-mail. The innumerable caravan which moves We are going way off topic and should probably desist. The answer is still Jesus. *(Not that you are a Catholic. ~~”Christians have always done X” is an argument based on tradition, not theology.~~, This has become rather pointless. body, a body inextricably linked to the wider creation, Jesus accomplished 3. I’ve buried lots of animals and I can say that it’s dignified and appropriate. And what will it look like? The virtue demanded here is dedication, not disquiet. If it’s against your … To borrow from Believers want to be sure the practice is biblical. It is important to consider where and by whom they will be kept, as well as what will happen to them in the future. Unlike the infancy narratives of Matthew and Luke, the Gospel of Mark And I think we are living in the midst of one. Is it the tradition of Christians everywhere to ignore clear commands to speak the truth in love, or to give an answer for your hope with gentleness and respect? (2 Pet 3:7, 10–13), and be removed (is 34:4; Rev 6:14; Zeph 1:18). Pastors should lead the way in cultivating a church ethos where expensive funerals (and weddings!) If you choose to affirm #3 then is it the case that God saves or damns based on membership in a group, or because individuals (in whom alone consciousness and volition inhere) have joined themselves to the community of the saved (the Church), or chosen to stand outside it? But, to my mind, those terms accurately characterize all of Christianity, which, to my mind, has visited untolled, hideous, profoundly unjustifiable, unredeemable violence on the world beyond Europe since the beginning of European exploration in the 15th century. […] My previous essay, therefore, is an attempt to understand how this tradition has been lost. The customary practice of the early church was to bury a corpse immediately after death, followed by a memorial service three days later. 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The dexterity with which Pickstock in one fell sentence accounts for several different cultural phenomena—the preference of more Americans to die, or have their family members die, in hospitals rather than at home, the rise and popularity of nursing “homes,” the default expectation of embalming in the funeral “home” industry, as well as the design, marketing, placement, and procedures of abortion clinics. It’s a fine way to do away with a good movement. this creation that passes away (1 Cor 7:31).201 God will set creation free from Berry, however, does not mention cremation anywhere that I recall. It has nothing to do with “Christianity.”. So now can we stop asserting that cremation can only be prompted by ignorance of tradition or modernist gnosticism? The universal Christian witness up until about the 1960s supports burial and condemns cremation. I have no doubts about the Resurrection of the dead, but I am fairly sure it will not resemble the early scenes of Night Of The Living Dead. that my original post seemed to lack for some of you. You can accuse others of heteropraxis on that score, but certainly not heterodoxy — unless you are asserting that physical burial is part of the gospel? Often family members have strong feelings about the way they want to be laid to rest. Some, like your husband, oppose cremation on biblical … (But I think that is what you were meaning to say.). And, lost each human trace, surrendering up Multi-generational orphans of success, we are orphans and we are orphaning. Is cremation a sin, or is it an ethical option for Christians? Or are you arguing that donating one’s body to medical research in order to help save others’ lives is also un-Christian? Like one who wraps the drapery of his couch The current physical creation longs for liberation from corruption Just a couple of parting thoughts. The question should be: why desecrate the image of God, the temple of the Holy Spirit itself by destroying it with fire? Our bodies He will breathe the life back into when it suits His purpose. ing that interprets these in terms of the “extinction of the creation itself in In the meantime the connection with our old forms has been broken, this generation can see that the Temple is already broken. To mix for ever with the elements, But yes, I agree that we are not saved “alone”; but the community in and through which we are saved is the Church (give that what meaning seems right to you; I am not arguing in favor of one institutional church here). Though most religions do permit cremation, some don’t, such as Islam and Orthodox Judaism. Could James Matthew Wilson clear this up for me? There is little Christian about arguing for individual salvation. I admit to being surprised that there are folks who think we have a religious duty to be buried. creation. Indeed. I was just expressing my sincere surprise that their were Christians who considered burial a matter of orthodoxy. FOR SHAME! I wish this article had focused more on the spirit of the thing, which is significant: our culture’s “necrophilia” and disregard for history and place. Your comments prove otherwise. physical creation, remove our “souls” from of our bodies, and then start all Some of these, like nitrous oxides and heavy metals, … imply escape from creation.199 instead, God will bring forth the renewed not it also says that the current creation will undergo fire What is the point of God judging something that has no soul? Believers chose the third day as an affirmation of faith in the resurrection of Christ and the future resurrection of all believers. Having said that, my wife wants her cremated body to be deposited into the Gulf of Mexico. Cremation is not wrong, but burial is a better picture of the Christian hope of resurrection. Some feel that it’s disrespectful or that it deprives the family of the sense of closure that comes from viewing the body in the casket. Factors against it are the amount of fuel required by a single cremation … You have successfully joined our subscriber list. In the Hebrew Scriptures cremation is usually presented in a negative light. Thou go not, like the quarry-slave at night, violent storm on the waters. Things have gotten out of hand. Christian anthropology does not teach that a human is a soul in a body, like a ghost in a container. But isn’t there an inconsistency here? Why should the dead take up so much space? Do you have anything to offer other than tradition and baseless assertions of consequentialism, or an answer to the Scriptural appeal to use our bodies to do good to others when no obvious moral wrong is involved? I’d love to see your proof texting of this. in which the chaotic waters covered the earth. It seems to me that Christ obliterated the notion that God favors one ethnicity over another. Eliot in Choruses from the Rock. Why is this so hard to understand? The renewed creation will shed the old creation like shedding a tat- I don’t want to make that mistake. The difference, I suppose, is that from where I presently stand (disclaimer: I’m a young, ignorant, wayfaring fool), I find myself reaching more into the past for the good examples than holding with too much faith in the present state of skepticism toward everything told, and ennui with everything ‘old’, nor likewise do I have much faith that we are going to suddenly formulate any brand new solutions. put it in contemporary terms, He shared the DNA of His mother, a DNA Second, just as the body has a future for the soul to inhabit the created order has a future for the body to inhabit. Granted she hadn’t been practicing traditional Roman Catholicism for a while so that might have been part of it, but I don’t think she’ll be damned for it. I agree with commenters who have mentioned the abomination of the made-up and embalmed body, but for my father we stipulated we wanted the legal minimum, no embalming, and to see him laid out in his all wood casket—we wanted something that would decompose—at peace after much suffering, and kingly (“lord of thyself, I crown and mitre thee”–Virgil to Dante at the end of the Purgatorio), was in a sense a joy to his family. Those who have been burned as martyrs — even those believers who have wrongly chosen cremation will be raised. The bone fragments are then processed in a machine until they resemble coarse sand, light gray in color. I hope you are not saying that God cannot resurrect us if we are cremated? An urn can be interred with the same holy reverence as a coffin. And I was happy that the Orthodox Church required an open casket. By the way, Sweden has a new method of body disposal via a chemical bath which dissolves the body into a liquid from which “useful components” can be recovered. every believer body-and-soul. I’m on it Zac. Many of the comments have still been looking at the burial issue from a very individualistic lens. As someone who has buried one grandmother and two parents over the past decade I can tell you, it wasn’t cheap. I’ve found this post and the comments fascinating, because I was unaware that there were people who believed that what happens to our bodies after death is somehow relevant to our faith. It’s that it reflects, as Mr. crwiley# states below, a tendency to think about bodies as extraneous packaging. We did our protesting and now we don’t know how to submit to, or even recognize, authority. Dan, if what you demand is a common place for different perspectives on questions of “place, limits, liberty”, then you are naturally going to come across, from time to time — some times more than others — perspectives with which you disagree. It’s pretty hard to get a relic from a pile of ash. Well, my friend, I wasn’t calling anyone CRAZY, as you put it. You are simply repeating the same arrogant and uncharitable assertions — people only support cremation on a “modernist whim.”. Unless the cremated remains are interred in a perpetual care cemetery, there will be no permanent marker or place to honor and memorialize the life and death of the deceased for generations to come. We decried tradition (some rightly), and now don’t know how to connect truth and practice. Father’s favor. Thanks for your e-mail. The innumerable caravan which moves We are going way off topic and should probably desist. The answer is still Jesus. *(Not that you are a Catholic. ~~”Christians have always done X” is an argument based on tradition, not theology.~~, This has become rather pointless. body, a body inextricably linked to the wider creation, Jesus accomplished 3. I’ve buried lots of animals and I can say that it’s dignified and appropriate. And what will it look like? The virtue demanded here is dedication, not disquiet. If it’s against your … To borrow from Believers want to be sure the practice is biblical. It is important to consider where and by whom they will be kept, as well as what will happen to them in the future. Unlike the infancy narratives of Matthew and Luke, the Gospel of Mark And I think we are living in the midst of one. Is it the tradition of Christians everywhere to ignore clear commands to speak the truth in love, or to give an answer for your hope with gentleness and respect? (2 Pet 3:7, 10–13), and be removed (is 34:4; Rev 6:14; Zeph 1:18). Pastors should lead the way in cultivating a church ethos where expensive funerals (and weddings!) If you choose to affirm #3 then is it the case that God saves or damns based on membership in a group, or because individuals (in whom alone consciousness and volition inhere) have joined themselves to the community of the saved (the Church), or chosen to stand outside it? But, to my mind, those terms accurately characterize all of Christianity, which, to my mind, has visited untolled, hideous, profoundly unjustifiable, unredeemable violence on the world beyond Europe since the beginning of European exploration in the 15th century. […] My previous essay, therefore, is an attempt to understand how this tradition has been lost. The customary practice of the early church was to bury a corpse immediately after death, followed by a memorial service three days later. 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